Bill Gurley

Yes.

Credit card.

Yeah, 19 credit cards.

But it's such a great story.

Like, it's just such a great story.

And now, you know, he's at the phase in his life where he's giving back and launching foundations.

And this is my point.

Like, I had a young person at John Hopkins raise their hand and say, but I don't want to chase my passion.

I want to be purpose-driven.

And I thought to myself, you know, every profile in the book, these people are touching more lives than they could have ever imagined.

I don't want to chase my passion.

I think it's part of a new movement to just, like, feel good about yourself.

Like, my main goal in life is to help other people.

Serve.

My only point was these people that are able to climb from the bottom rung to the top and do it in the right way end up touching hundreds and hundreds of lives.

I mean, one of my favorite on that front is many years ago, because I was involved with Open Table, I met Danny Meyer.

and who's the famous restaurateur in New York that also built Shake Shack.

He has a great book, Setting the Table, if people haven't read it.

But if you talk to people in the restaurant industry, and they worked even for a year at a Danny Meyer restaurant,

It's like meaningful to them.