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Bill Gurley

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But those investors that are encouraging that behavior, I think there's another element that's going on here.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

If you think about a traditional IPO, the thing I hate maybe more than anything, as you already know.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

The bank's going to be very deliberate on their allocations.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So if a company were going public, a, let's just say, large public investor and private investor, firm X, puts in for an allocation, what do they tip?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They oversubscribe by 100X, and they may get 1% or 2% of the offering.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They're not going to get 30%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And when these firms go to a company like Databricks or Stripe or whoever and encourage this round, they can get 30%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So they can get a bigger ownership percentage than they would get through a traditional IPO process.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And in fact, they share a lot of these deals.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So kind of an oligopic opportunity there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

to hoard the public IPO growth years and take it away from the public markets.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So we all know Amazon went public less than a billion dollars and then traded over a trillion.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And the public market had access to all those great years of compounding.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And if you step in and delay that and get decent ownership, you wouldn't get otherwise.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Maybe those firms are better off than they would have been participating in those companies while they were public.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Here's a super important piece that goes on top of that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They then turn around to go to the LP community and say, companies are no longer going public when they used to.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

If you want exposure to that growth in these important high-tech companies, you have to invest in me.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And that resonates.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I agree with you on the wish.