Bill Gurley

And then the other one, it could be like this perception.

McConaughey had this perception that his father wanted him to be a lawyer.

It's probably just that Matthew had told him he was going to be a lawyer and he was supporting that.

But that weight can be there too.

Like you may feel – I think there are certain –

There are certain cultures where like being a doctor is considered really – in Russia, like being an academic was – so you may feel pressure from your family as this is the thing people in my family do.

And I've seen that.

And I've met people who have that weight upon them.

Those are all kind of things that could restrict this movement.

If you allow me to give you a little history of how or why I would say I spent six years turning the –

the original presentation into a book.

And I had this thing I really wanted to achieve, which was to embed as much stories and narrative into it as possible.

And I was listening, I know you've had Morgan Housel on.

He's the absolute GOAT.

And he was on a podcast called Why We Write, talking about the power of narrative.

And so the book is divided.

It's structured unlike most books.

It's divided into two parts, but they interleave.

And so every other chapter is a Atlantic-size article about someone that started on the bottom rung with intention and made it to the top.

And the reason I wanted to include those is precisely for the reason Morgan talks about, which is I think these things stick in your brain more.