Bill Gurley

Like, you could build a 20-pager on each one of these career paths.

What might I like?

What might I not like?

What are the three things people love in this career?

What are the three things?

You can steer it at all, right?

You can ask people in those fields.

You can go find them.

So you could role-play.

being in each of these.

There's a heuristic in the book that I borrowed from Ben Gilbert at Acquired, a lot of podcasters, where he had side hustles at all his jobs.

So at each job he went to, he would ask the employer, if I do it on my own time, can I do this other thing also?

And there's something really great about that.

One, in each of his cases, he ended up doing something pretty remarkable in the side hustle at Microsoft.

He created Microsoft Garage, which became this way for Microsoft to stay relevant with founders.

And he met all these founders, like all this kind of extra goodies came from that partnership.

Um, but I think it all, so you learn more, you learn maybe two, you get two shots on goal instead of one.

And I think the employer makes you look proactive.

So it reflects positively on you.

When he ended up at, at Madrona VC, ask him if he could start a podcast and look where that led.