Bill Harrison

Absolutely. And one further thing on that path there. Mr. Ortiz was involved with Mr. John Gonsalves' niece. They had a relationship. And John Gonsalves had also asked him to assist the police.

Absolutely. And one further thing on that path there. Mr. Ortiz was involved with Mr. John Gonsalves' niece. They had a relationship. And John Gonsalves had also asked him to assist the police.

He said, I can't tell you which, but it was an investigator. They came over there to sit down with me. They brought me some omiyage we ate, and they told us, basically told me, facts I did not know to put into this statement that I was going to give the court. That's what he told us.

He said, I can't tell you which, but it was an investigator. They came over there to sit down with me. They brought me some omiyage we ate, and they told us, basically told me, facts I did not know to put into this statement that I was going to give the court. That's what he told us.

Exactly.

Exactly.