Bill Kristol

And yours?

And I think the upshot of my conversation with Aaron was...

worrisome and is a genuine expert on this, obviously, and follows it very closely.

And has been, I think, a voice of alarm, but a little bit cautious alarm in the sense that, well, they can't really ramp up as fast as they said they would, and there are some legal constraints.

But he's been struck, too, by just how far they've gone, how

how far they're going.

And with all the money that's flooding in and all their talk about now moving beyond just, well, gee, we have to kick out the criminals to just flat out remigration.

We've got to clean, you know, we're going to remove 53 million foreigners.

Most of Trump said, didn't he?

It was at Thanksgiving, his Thanksgiving tweet.

Most of whom I think he said are criminals and other such types of public charges, unbelievable nonsense.

they seem to be all in on this and you know you practically i've always thought won't trump pull back a little it's it's not very popular it's getting crazier and crazier but there seems to be no instinct to pull back so i think for me what it says is we sort of want to think we've seen the worst of it you know probably chicago that was kind of yeah that was bad but you know they've kind of let up at some point they've got money flooding in their

They're hiring people.

They're hiring people who like doing this, apparently.

The more you see these videos of ICE and the Border Patrol, they're finding new cities to go to, as you just said.

And it's bad.

I mean, I think the degree to which we are going to have this just chugging ahead in a lawless and brutal way and the radicalization of the anti-immigration agenda, if I can put it that way, it's not good.

Yeah.

I totally agree, and I say this in the newsletter in a slightly different context, but Congress can control this.

I mean, the notion that there's nothing we can do except demonstrate, and I'm for demonstrating, don't get me wrong, I'd be very impressed.