Chapter 1: What recent immigration policies are being discussed in New Orleans?
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's December 1st somehow. I don't really know how that happened. I got to start Christmas shopping. I don't know. What's going on, Bill? How are you doing? How was your Thanksgiving? Time flies when you're having fun, Tim.
You know, it's the Trump era. Sometimes the Trump era seems like it goes in dog years or whatever, but maybe this is the opposite.
We're all... Yeah, I don't know. It has felt like a long year.
But my Thanksgiving was good. Thank you. And yours?
mine is good the whole family was at a big house on the beach which which explains my beach clothes for the youtube viewers you know is that restful to have four children under seven at the beach not really but um is it fun and nice and wholesome it is so i'm happy to be back with you though i want to indulge uh you know it's podcast hosts rights i think to begin it's a lot of news but to begin with the stuff that's happening on my neck of the woods which is in new orleans and um
The Border Patrol plans its invasion of New Orleans into Jackson Square beginning today. Unfortunately, I'm flying back tonight, so I'll be in the air during this. But there is a protest tonight at 6 p.m. in Lafayette Square for all the locals listening, if you want to head down there.
You had your conversation yesterday with Aaron Reikland-Melnick that focused on immigration and what their plans are. Obviously – This is absurd to send the CPB into New Orleans. This is a solution in search of a problem. And we'll kind of see how it shakes out. But based on what we've now seen in Chicago, Charlotte, and elsewhere, I think we know it's coming.
So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on that and your conversation with Aaron yesterday. I mean, I am curious to see what happens.
And I think the upshot of my conversation with Aaron was... worrisome and is a genuine expert on this, obviously, and follows it very closely. And has been, I think, a voice of alarm, but a little bit cautious alarm in the sense that, well, they can't really ramp up as fast as they said they would, and there are some legal constraints. But he's been struck, too, by just how far they've gone, how
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Chapter 2: How is Trump's administration exploiting tragedies for political gain?
If you didn't like what you've been seeing in Chicago for the last month or two, we're going to have a year or maybe three years of that. And city after city. And what is it going to do to the country? I mean, and then with tens of billions of dollars more behind ICE and the Border Patrol.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, Congress is funding it to the point that they can stop it and put rules around it. I think it actually, it feels pathetic, but it isn't to bring out the Republicans in Congress.
There's a story I came across this morning about something that's kind of flown under the radar, but Trump's pulled a lot of nominees lately because like Republican senators behind the scenes, you know, are doing things. So again, you know, you had Epstein, the vote go against him and everything unraveled.
As he starts to feel more like a lame duck, just sort of a little bit more courage or a little bit more willingness to kind of put sticks in the spokes of what they're trying to do, I think it's possible. I don't think it's particularly likely, particularly on this issue, since it's so central to Trump. But, you know, I mean, there are... potentially things around the edges that can be done.
And obviously in Louisiana, this is only happening because our stupid governor is, is allowing it to happen. And then, you know, maybe in certain States, not Louisiana, unfortunately, but in other States, I do wonder if the politics are a little different. We talk about the individual stories, just this other one from over the weekend of, uh, loose Lucia, uh, Belosa.
She's a 19 year old college student, uh, She was brought to the U.S. from Honduras when she was eight. She was on her way to surprise her family for Thanksgiving break, flying from the northeast down to Texas. She was detained at the airport in Boston and deported to Honduras.
She had a federal judge's order blocking removal, and yet the government deported her anyway to a country that she hasn't lived in since she was eight. Just insane, totally depraved behavior that has like 20 percent support in the country doing like deporting dream or kids back to countries they never really lived in.
You know, and I think in addition to being illegal, like the other thing that struck me for the weekend was Christy Noem was out and she basically confirms in an interview that she approved the plane's. that sent the Venezuelans to SICOT in El Salvador even after the judge objected.
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Chapter 3: What alarming immigration trends are emerging under the current administration?
who have come to this country. And when Trump says 53 million foreigners, most of whom were criminals or public charges or sponging off the country, whatever he says in that one tweet, he's talking about, I don't know, he's talking about J.D. Vance's in-laws, right? He's talking about his wife, his wife just mentioned, and his own in-laws. I mean, not that he cares, I guess, but it's grotesque.
I mean, it really is grotesque. And the policy that follows from this understanding is depraved and so un-American, so anti-American. The public has been good, actually, in its reaction, I would say, all things considered, given that they were genuinely concerned about the border and that Trump had a bit of an advantage on that issue to start with.
But it would be nice if Republican members of Congress and other elites spoke up a little. It's not like business leaders don't have some say in this. It's not like they couldn't raise this when they were at their black-tie dinners with Trump. You know, it's not like others couldn't weigh in. So I really I don't know.
Maybe it's to say one feels a little foolish sometimes just saying this over and over. But things do change. You know, you say things a few times that don't have any effect. And then if Trump's at 38 percent instead of 45 percent. And if, as you say, if there are cracks that are emerging into support because of Epstein and other issues, one has to just keep saying it, I guess.
Sure. And business leaders locally also in Charlotte, New Orleans. And I was looking at the list of the sponsors on the protests in New Orleans. I'm not seeing the Chamber of Commerce on there. In the past, business has actually been an ally in a lot of ways. on the immigration issue. You mentioned the Trump lead.
So this is in response to this terrible shooting in D.C., which I want to talk about. But I'm just going to read a little bit from it. I mean, I think obviously folks will have seen this, but just to set the table, these West Virginia National Guard soldiers have been deployed to D.C. We're still in D.C. We're near the White House when they were shot by a Afghan asylee, basically.
The shooter was in the anti-Taliban paramilitary force in Afghanistan. And so he qualified for the program that allowed Afghans, that basically helped us to come to America after...
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Chapter 4: How are financial interests influencing U.S. foreign policy?
The end of the Afghanistan war, this process started during Biden. He was actually approved for asylum during the Trump administration. I don't think that's going to be happening anymore. I want to talk about the actual murder and the National Guard soldiers, particularly Sarah Beckstrom, who died in a second.
But to your point on Trump's reaction, he writes, I will permanently pause migration from all third world countries, denaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility, And deport any foreign national who's a public charge security risk or non-compatible with Western civilization. Those are two things that are just worth noting there.
So we're going to get rid of the legal status of people that undermine domestic tranquility. So what could that be? That could literally be anything. That could be somebody that sends a tweet criticizing Trump or... Or posting a meme about Charlie Kirk. We've seen this. Or obviously commenting on the Israel war.
These are the types of things that potentially could lead to someone losing their green card status in the country. We've already seen it. And then we're going to deport people who are non-compatible with Western civilization. To your point about the racial element of this. I did a little rant about Scott Jennings over in the board takes feed if people want to listen to that.
But like, what are these guys even talking about anymore when they're talking about Western civilization? Like for a while it was talking about kind of like enlightenment ideology and, you know, like our, our allies, you know, our, our, you know, with other Western nations and like being democratic.
I mean, like fighting for the West had this meeting and like from the eighties till recently of like, basically the sort of classically liberal ideology in our system of alliances and capitalism and trade. Trump's against all of that. Trump is trying to break down our Western alliances and realign us with the Sharia law dictators and El Salvador and maybe Russia. Right.
And so what do they mean when they say people are noncompatible with Western civilization? I mean, it seems like basically that they're nonwhite and that they're critical of this administration is essentially what they mean.
Oh, totally, totally. It's really, I mean, this awful killing, that he's using that excuse. And this guy apparently had some kind of psychotic breakdown, basically. You know, his family's been worried about him. They tried to get him, I think, some counseling. It didn't work. He drove cross-country. It's terrible what happened, obviously.
But the idea that this is an indictment of the Afghans who fought with us, well, it's pure demagoguery. What can you say, right?
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Chapter 5: How is AI impacting political and economic decisions in the U.S.?
It's bigotry, and that's what it is. But the damage it's doing, I mean, A, some of it should be stopped by Congress, but B, the damage it's doing to the social fabric, don't you think? Well, to the people themselves, of course, who are the objects of the bigotry and who now worry about their future. I mean, Trump is, but also in general to the social fabric.
I mean, it's important to have a country where people have the incentive and the feeling they should try to work together and make this all work out, not the opposite. Yeah.
Yeah. And JD, like when he was at the Vatican, you know, after the Pope died, is doing an interview, I think it was with Ross, doubt that, where he's talking about how we need to do this because of the social fabric, right? Like the social fabric of the country has already deteriorated. So this is all like part of the rationale for, you know, this pandemic.
deportation regime and these new policies is keeping the country together. That's absurd on its face. It's absurd on its face. It's based on this premise that 10 years from now, if the country is a little bit whiter, then we're all going to get along better. What is the evidence for that? A, the political divide... as maybe the starkest between whites in the country.
I mean, if you just look at it. And what we're doing now is going into these communities, terrorizing them. We saw this in Charlotte. As I mentioned, we're seeing it in New Orleans now. People are scared to go to school.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Trump's clemency decisions?
People are scared to get health services. And gender is bitterness. That is doing the opposite. And then taking this horrible tragedy in D.C., And, you know, making it about, okay, well, now we're going to take certain classes of people and attack them and otherwise. Like, that's what they're deciding to do. Okay, like, if they want to advance their policy, because that's their ideology, fine.
But trying to wrap this on the idea that this is going to help the social fabric of the country is preposterous. So, I should just say, because I met you, Andrew Wolfe was the... other West Virginia National Guard guy that got shot. The latest update as we're taping this is that he was a critical condition, but things are looking better for him. So hopefully he comes out the other side of us.
That's just one of these situations where it's like, it's so fraught because every element of it is bad, right? Like the shooter's actions, just abominable, terrible. It's just a nightmare. The poor West Virginia National Guard soldiers, why were they in D.C.
Chapter 7: How is the narrative around drug trafficking being shaped?
during Thanksgiving? serving no real purpose. Trump's reaction to it, like the worst type of demagoguery. Me and Bill's podcast has been positive like the last two weeks. Okay, people. So we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to get into the muck a little bit today.
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Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of a kleptocratic foreign policy?
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You began the newsletter today, your newsletter, with a great quote from the city of God, remove justice and what our kingdoms, but gangs of criminals on a large scale, which is very relevant today. So I want to talk about our gangs of criminals and how we're acting across Venezuela, Russia, pardons, some other areas.
But I just want to talk a little bit about the newsletter and the big picture of this first. Yeah, I mean, we have, I guess, was provoked by the
Pretty obvious war crime that seems to have been committed, if the Washington Post reporting is to be believed, and no one's really challenged it seriously. Blowing up all these boats is probably a war crime or lawless, certainly, as even Andrew McCarthy of National Review says, but ordering a second strike to kill the two survivors, which seems to have happened.
is literally the definition of a war crime. It is the definition of a war crime in the Defense Department manual. Killing people in a shipwreck is sort of the quintessential thing you can't do, even if the original thing were lawful, which it probably wasn't. So terrible that we did it.
It's notable. For people who don't know, Andrew McCarthy is a National Review, their legal writer, who was pretty generous to Trump, I would say, over the cases with regards to the impeachments. I think that's a nice way to put it. And I just think it's worth noting because I went and read it after you mentioned it to me. Has been... There is no caveat.
There is no, you know, kind of talking around it, like his description of what the lawlessness of the government's actions in Venezuela before this report. And then now with this killing of potentially, you know, reportedly two people that had survived the initial attack, and then we just gathered them out of the water anyway.
And he was just abundantly clear about the illegality of it, which is noteworthy given kind of where he's been before on Trump.
Yeah, absolutely. And then, of course, we have the normal financial crimes, money crimes, the grifting. I mean, it's so out of control. It's so massive. It's so many different people are now involved in so many different fronts. Some of it's now mixed up, maybe always was, but a little more obviously mixed up in key foreign policy decisions.
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