Bill Kristol: A Kleptocratic, Autocratic Cabal
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What recent immigration policies are being discussed in New Orleans?
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's December 1st somehow. I don't really know how that happened. I got to start Christmas shopping. I don't know. What's going on, Bill? How are you doing? How was your Thanksgiving? Time flies when you're having fun, Tim.
You know, it's the Trump era. Sometimes the Trump era seems like it goes in dog years or whatever, but maybe this is the opposite.
We're all... Yeah, I don't know. It has felt like a long year.
But my Thanksgiving was good. Thank you. And yours?
mine is good the whole family was at a big house on the beach which which explains my beach clothes for the youtube viewers you know is that restful to have four children under seven at the beach not really but um is it fun and nice and wholesome it is so i'm happy to be back with you though i want to indulge uh you know it's podcast hosts rights i think to begin it's a lot of news but to begin with the stuff that's happening on my neck of the woods which is in new orleans and um The Border Patrol plans its invasion of New Orleans into Jackson Square beginning today. Unfortunately, I'm flying back tonight, so I'll be in the air during this. But there is a protest tonight at 6 p.m. in Lafayette Square for all the locals listening, if you want to head down there.
You had your conversation yesterday with Aaron Reikland-Melnick that focused on immigration and what their plans are. Obviously – This is absurd to send the CPB into New Orleans. This is a solution in search of a problem. And we'll kind of see how it shakes out. But based on what we've now seen in Chicago, Charlotte, and elsewhere, I think we know it's coming. So I'm wondering what your thoughts are on that and your conversation with Aaron yesterday. I mean, I am curious to see what happens.
And I think the upshot of my conversation with Aaron was... worrisome and is a genuine expert on this, obviously, and follows it very closely. And has been, I think, a voice of alarm, but a little bit cautious alarm in the sense that, well, they can't really ramp up as fast as they said they would, and there are some legal constraints. But he's been struck, too, by just how far they've gone, how how far they're going. And with all the money that's flooding in and all their talk about now moving beyond just, well, gee, we have to kick out the criminals to just flat out remigration. We've got to clean, you know, we're going to remove 53 million foreigners. Most of Trump said, didn't he? It was at Thanksgiving, his Thanksgiving tweet.
Most of whom I think he said are criminals and other such types of public charges, unbelievable nonsense. they seem to be all in on this and you know you practically i've always thought won't trump pull back a little it's it's not very popular it's getting crazier and crazier but there seems to be no instinct to pull back so i think for me what it says is we sort of want to think we've seen the worst of it you know probably chicago that was kind of yeah that was bad but you know they've kind of let up at some point they've got money flooding in their They're hiring people. They're hiring people who like doing this, apparently. The more you see these videos of ICE and the Border Patrol, they're finding new cities to go to, as you just said.
And it's bad. I mean, I think the degree to which we are going to have this just chugging ahead in a lawless and brutal way and the radicalization of the anti-immigration agenda, if I can put it that way, it's not good.
The individual stories, you know, I'm already obviously getting a lot of texts from folks locally in Louisiana and just anecdotes. A Mexican restaurant that opened up after Hurricane Katrina, like closing down because they don't want to put any of the workers at risk. That dialysis center saying like people aren't showing up to get their dialysis because they're worried that ICE is going to be there. I mean, it's just like there's just so few people that are for this, to your point, about like the political argument for it.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What recent immigration policies are being discussed in New Orleans?
0:12–5:13
2
How is Trump's administration exploiting tragedies for political gain?
5:13–8:40
3
What alarming immigration trends are emerging under the current administration?
8:40–10:46
4
How are financial interests influencing U.S. foreign policy?
10:46–16:38
5
How is AI impacting political and economic decisions in the U.S.?
16:38–18:01
6
What are the implications of Trump's clemency decisions?
18:01–19:01
7
How is the narrative around drug trafficking being shaped?
19:01–20:36
8
What are the potential consequences of a kleptocratic foreign policy?
20:36–53:42
Speakers
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