Bill Kristol

It is the nature of every agency.

And a little more so in the last 10, 15 years as the border stuff has heated up, obviously, than before.

ICE was more of not a big, you know, contact with the people agency.

ICE picked up the people in jails who were undocumented immigrants who had finished serving their term, perhaps, in some local prison or whatever, drove them to the airport and put them on the planes out there.

I'm being a little too

but it's sort of basically what they did.

And of course there, there's been massive recruiting.

We know the nature of that recruitment, very white nationalists and, you know, ridiculous macho kind of stuff.

And so the combination of the two is really bad.

I mean, in this case, it is, as you say, it's not new border patrol agents.

It's people who've been around for a decade.

I think ICE, if I've seen the numbers correctly, like half their agents will have been hired in the last year who's volunteering for ICE now.

I mean, so the combination is very bad.

These are not people who are,

into disciplined law enforcement on the streets of our cities and, you know, being respectful of both citizens' rights and immigrants' rights.

It puts the lie, as Andrew Egger argued in this morning's warning shots.

I mean, I think even if Trump were sort of sincere about the de-escalation thing, which I don't think he is, these agencies have a momentum of their own now.

It's not as if they're not doing stuff elsewhere.

We've seen stuff on videos online that are pretty horrifying.

The thing for me that really strikes me is they love breaking windows.