Bill Kristol

I couldn't even follow it.

It's so complicated.

Yesterday, I think.

Last night, I think it was unclear.

It was one.

I don't really know much about it.

Yeah, no, I forgot.

I'm clanking for the corrections.

I said financial.

But he was indicted and convicted here for drug smuggling, basically.

Massive, massive amounts of cocaine.

And so, yeah, Trump really cares a lot about that, allegedly, right?

Yeah, very deep.

I'm going to pretend I didn't even hear that question.

The only thing I'm going to say is, I mean, I think he is declining somewhat.

The thing about the corruption, just so we can get back, is it's so widespread, though, that among him and in the movement, if you will, among his supporters, we were talking about some of the tech guys, but obviously not just tech guys, the energy guys and everyone.

I don't know.

If he goes away, well, Vance is more ideological, which is both good and bad, obviously, in some ways, but

I don't know.

I feel like the whole thing is now so permeated, I don't know the right way to say it, that even if Trump is removed from it, plopped away, it's got to chug on for its own sake.