Bill Kristol

I don't know if we do, actually.

I think we said, Trump said we do.

I read somewhere that there's still flights taking off, so I don't know.

I still think Trump's aversion, the lesson he's learned that starting these wars doesn't work out well for presidents politically.

It might be strong enough that it's all bluff and talk and he's going to then claim victory with Maduro and he will make some deal.

And maybe he will get access, he'll get U.S.

access to a lot of the oil or something like that.

And then he'll forget, of course, entirely about the huge human rights violations and the refugees and everything else, all the other damage Maduro is doing to the country and decide, you know what, he can get along with Maduro just like he's getting along with Trump.

Every other dictator he runs into and can kind of deal with.

So I don't know.

It's so irresponsible.

It's so reckless.

The side effects in Latin America and elsewhere, the knock-on effects could well be very damaging.

And we could stumble into a war, which we are totally unprepared for and have no plan for, that I know of.

I mean, apart from bombing a few places.

Yeah, they're selling out Ukraine, which has been fighting bravely, obviously, against invasion by a dictator, brutal invasion of a dictator, for the sake of their personal financial interest.

I mean, I hate to sound hysterical, but it almost literally is the definition of treason, right?

It's not treason because we're not fighting, it's Ukraine.

But it's still, it's not for some mistaken view of

Russia could be an important ally in the future and geopolitical, blah, blah, blah, right?