Bill Mackay

But it's just as easy these days.

We've got vastly improved pedestrian crossings that privilege people who are walking just as much as they privilege people in cars.

So it's just as good to cross the road now.

My guess would be 20s or 30s, not later than that, but it could have been slightly earlier.

And you can also see a little light on top, but my guess is that's actually a flu for smells and odours.

So if you've got your kids with you and you need the toilet but the library or the art gallery is just shut, then this is quite useful.

So the reason they placed them underground is really, even though we've got acres of footpath here, it's just a sense of decorum, you know, privacy, that kind of thing.

Because, you know, people have always associated toilets and the functions that...

go on there as kind of dirty and nasty and best kept out of sight.

If you're a man, the world's your toilet.

But also, remember this isn't in the era where it was mainly men who were working.

So they had toilets available at work, they went to the pub after work, they had toilets available there.

If you're a woman visiting this city, different story.

And it looks a little bit dodgy to us now.

It's got a big gate across it.

It's chained shut.

There's a bit of rubbish down the bottom there.

But it would probably have had an attendant working there at the time to just make sure nothing horrible went on.

Yes.

But mainly to kind of like keep it clean, that sort of thing.