Bill Maher

I think of him now as the nicotine guy.

He's really bullish on nicotine, which we can also talk about.

He's definitely taken a turn.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yeah.

He's taken a turn for sure.

Thanks for the kind words.

I'll say, you know, some of it was a matter of circumstance.

We launched the podcast during the pandemic and there was a lot of discussion about vaccines.

Right.

And that's obviously where the major debate was besides the lockdown issue.

I decided at the time in part because Stanford had a very strict rule that we weren't supposed to talk about vaccines publicly because early in the pandemic, if you recall, there were documents, word documents circulating on the Internet, people claiming to be affiliated with certain universities and having protocols for dealing with COVID.

And universities, including Stanford, said, listen, we need virologists and public health experts to talk about this or no one else.

So on the podcast, I chose to talk about all the things that were universal, how to manage your sleep, how to keep your anxiety down during the lockdowns as best you could, how to maintain some level of physical fitness if you couldn't leave your house, what

And then I just started teaching.

And I think in large part, it was because I wasn't selling a book.

I didn't have a podcast.

I was just giving away information.

I will say also, if you look at a lot, not all, but a lot of the top podcasters, including yourself, including Rogan, Lex Friedman, and there are others, Jocko Willink, for instance,

Most of them did something else very well first.