Bill Thompson

And it's important to me.

And you had a group of men telling you, you're at this level.

We're going to treat you like that.

And if you fall from grace, we're going to remind you right away.

And we just don't do that with young men.

And we have a society now where young men act like young men until they're 45 or 50 or 60.

And sometimes never stop.

Yeah.

And women, nature imposes itself on women.

They become fertile.

They're able to have babies.

Yeah.

And they've got to seek security or find a husband or a really good job that will supplement whatever a husband would provide.

And they've got to start acting like a woman, whereas men can sit in a basement, you know, and it becomes very dangerous.

Yeah.

And if you don't impose nature on yourself by undergoing those types of rights and understanding what it means to become a man, nature will impose itself on you by either a, you're never going to have children and therefore you're dead forever or B, it will kill you because you're fat and in your mom's basement, you get diabetes, the foot chopped off and you're 35 and you know.

We just don't tell men, we don't have a, the military did it for me.

I had really put off responsibility or seeking meaning or any of those things until I was in the military.

And like I said, my father died when I was five.

So I really had no central male authority until I was about 13 or 14 when I met this guy, Steve.