Bill Thompson

The frame and the engine make up.

is published.

So you can look at how things work on the inside.

Apple goes the opposite way and they don't publish any of that.

And you can't see any of that stuff.

I'm for the free and open version because at least if something, at least if I'm worried about my phone having a problem, I can actually dump binary or I can create Neo one file and exhume.

I can look at the binary and say, is my phone acting like it should or doing what it should, or is there some kind of persistent implant?

I wouldn't be able to do that with a

I would have to trust Apple and Apple's ecosystem and whoever they're McAfee or whatever they're using.

I would have to trust them, which I don't.

Well, the great part about large language models now is if you wanted to dump your own phone today, you could follow along with a large language model and do it, your own Android.

And how would you do that?

Well, you would have to buy some expensive – there is something – you would either have to pay a firm to do it or you could download things like Celebrite.

You could get a Celebrite or there's other things called Forensic Toolkit, other things like that that allow you to examine your phone at a deeper level.

They're products.

Products.

They're products.

So it's a physical product that you dump your phone into?

Yeah, and they're software.

And there's connecting and all that type of stuff.