Bill Thompson

Tools I used throughout my military career, Celebrite was one of them, but they're Israeli-owned.

I've got nothing against Israel.

I've just got everything against foreign actors.

It's just if they're not an American company, that automatically kicks them down a level for me.

So anyway, there's all kinds of – Android just makes it much easier to examine your phone or to understand if you've got something going on that's funky than it is on Apple.

You would download some of the software that I talked about.

You would jack your phone into it.

You would open your phone, and then it would start carving the binary of everything in your phone.

You could create a one-to-one emulation of your phone if you wanted to.

And then you would be able to get under the hood and examine the apps.

You would be able to examine the binary.

What's the executable code?

You'd be able to look at all of those things and then determine, because Android open source project is published, you could do a one-for-one and say, well, at the kernel level, there's this weird code that's not in the Android code.

So what is this code?

And then with a neural network, you could probably, I don't, I've never done it, but I'm sure you could figure out what the intent is of that code, even for a lay person.

Ostensibly, it would be able to, yes, unless it was some type of weird code.

I haven't used Perplexity, so I don't know if they have something like ChatGPT's Codex.

Yeah, Apple's not open.

What are the reasons you don't trust Apple?

Well, could I ask?