Bill Thompson

I don't do this type of work anymore, and I need to sell a product.

Working with other employees that run my Instagram or assistant going through my email and all those other types of things, it just wasn't pragmatic anymore for me to keep doing that, and I had to give up that part of myself.

Yeah, well, it could.

Yeah, it would.

You have to sideload the app.

But again, a large language model could walk you through doing that.

Yeah.

He was just asking me why they make it easier.

Yeah.

That's what I was talking about.

So, yeah, I don't know why they do it.

It might be people can... Well, the Android open source project exists.

So it would stand to reason that you would want a way for someone... Because what you want is people interacting with that code and red teaming it and making the code better and then offering bug bounties so that you can tell Android, like, hey, you've got a critical flaw in your system architecture here.

and then they'll pay you 20 grand for that.

I've got friends who do that.

Yeah, just by virtue.

And look, Eric's a wonderful guy, and the principles that he used for the first instantiation of that phone are the correct principles, which is we need to get – if you're security-focused at all, you should get away from these big, large conglomerates because none of your data is private.

That's a correct principle.

An incorrect principle – and I'm going to get shit about this, but I –

I told you in the beginning I care about the truth, and I do care about the truth, is that when you're using a PKI subsystem that relies on Microsoft, then you're not in control of the PKI certificate signing, and Microsoft could cause a bunch of problems, and they were using that.