Bill Thompson

And if you trust Apple, continue using Apple.

If you don't trust Apple, then, you know, use Android and you could do you could use a pixel and do graphene and you could use signal on there and those other things.

You're going to be relatively safe.

But again, if I'm a nation state actor, I can create circumstances where I'm going to get access to your shit and I'm going to lock you down.

And they're some of them are more expensive than other methods to do it But I'm a pragmatist and you can always come up with a method to get a hold of somebody's shit You can always create the circumstances, especially if you're a nation-state actor To get a hold of somebody's stuff.

That would be the very high level of things that I would recommend to you Just out the gate Mmm

Yep.

And that's, you know, just make yourself a difficult target would be my best recommendation.

When you're gonna answer questions about password reset, don't answer them honestly.

Write down in a physical journal or something how you answered those questions.

Don't answer them honestly.

You know, all of these things we think are added for layers of protection.

For instance, you used to get that pop-up on your phone where it said, you know, there'd be like blocks of pictures.

And it would say, click all of the pictures with a... With a traffic light in it.

I was just going to say that, a traffic light in it.

Part of that might be for security.

The other part of it is they're using the information of what you're clicking to train neural networks.

You're a product at that point.

You think you're getting security out of it, but you're a product at that point because you're helping to educate a neural network on what traffic lights look like and how they can look and all those different instantiations of traffic lights.

And again, we have to separate causality and intention and outcomes in that the companies might do this because they want to create the greatest AI ever, but when you're issuing someone a 40-page terms of service document,