Billy Corben

John Lee, I used to.

Our office is on Miami Beach, and I would drive to the office.

I drive past the Miami Beach Convention Center, the Holocaust Memorial, beautiful sculpture.

And I would see every morning Eugenio Rolando Martinez taking his daily sabbatical.

Rolando was a Watergate burglar.

He lived well into his 90s and lived in Miami Beach and every morning would wake up, do pushups and take this very brisk walk as brisk as his body could take him around the block every day.

It's like it's only in Miami do you run into a Watergate burglar taking a stroll around the block every morning.

And in America as well.

I mean, Miami, people forget, became the terrorism capital of the United States of America from the 1960s, you know, from the revolution through really the late 90s, early zeros that long and hundreds of bombings.

You had Orlando Bosch with the shoulder launch, you know, the missile across government caught the Polish freighter.

You had hijackings of airplanes.

You had

Most of this, of course, being what we I guess we call right wing violence and terrorism.

Before we go, John Lee, I wanted to share this with you.

I was making a documentary many years ago that never got released called American Spies.

We interviewed Felix Rodriguez.

We interviewed Eugenio Rolando.

Martinez.

And you're always looking for, as you know, as a writer for the last line, right?

Who gets the last word, the last soundbite or the last like what kind of perfectly encapsulates what it is that we're what this whole enterprise is about.