Billy Corgan

And she built this really incredible, beautiful documentary.

So I think the evolution of the forum is interesting to me because as somebody who's out there looking at my own situation or my documentary point of view, you know, everybody's got their own take on what the, you know, with music, as you can imagine, has fallen into this very talking head, archival footage, talking head, archival footage.

Yeah, absolutely.

Do you love the purity of the documentary form?

What's your personal deeper attraction now that you're in it and you're accomplished in it?

What keeps you in the game of it?

Because, you know, there's the glamour of, like, you just had this beautiful documentary come out.

We're going to talk about that.

But, you know, there's the glamour of it's finally done and everybody's patting you on the back.

But there's those two years where you're sitting in a room...

You're not out in the sun, you're working on your thing.

So I don't have the patience.

That's why I'm amazed because I just think it's not supposed to be a Herculean effort to take on somebody's story.

I see.

Yes.

Yeah.

So let's talk about Ub, your grandfather.

First thing that comes to mind is it seems so honorable that you wanted to tell his story.

I think it's such a beautiful thing because...

As somebody who's like a bit of a Disney file, you know, his name would come up a lot.