Billy Corgan

And invariably, I kind of went down my own rabbit hole of finding out who he was.

But this is back pre-internet days.

It was harder to find information.

So with a stray book over here, I think at one point I had a laser disc that was like a collection of his non-Disney work.

Was it, was it, am I assuming too much as thinking it was deeply meaningful for you to tell his story?

he's always struck me as an incredible person.

Um, and you know, I think what's cool and you know, you've lived it from the inside is that, that over time, uh,

Oftentimes, you know, there's always the saying, you know, to the victor go the spoils, and not that Walt Disney wanted to triumph over your grandfather or anybody else, but, like, Walt became the story.

And, as you know, Roy Disney's just as big a part of the Disney story as Walt is, because without Roy, there'd be no money and all that type of stuff, and obviously your grandfather's artistic and...

innovative abilities is such a huge part of the Disney story.

So I think it's cool, but you tell me, were you given free reign to tell his story?

Because I'm not saying it's a grudge, but there would certainly need to be some correction there in the record.

So he had a relationship.

Yeah, they had this relationship.

That's so beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, how can I put this?

Somebody pays attention to this stuff maybe too much.

Disney as a sort of a, almost like a cultural phenomenon.