Billy Corgan

It was called Frontline at the time.

I think it's now, I think it's been disbanded at some point.

So we were working with a couple of managers under Irving's aegis.

And in the beginning, Irving was very invested.

And as time went on and it didn't turn into the big reunion tour that everybody anticipated, Irving got less and less interested.

The managers and I at some point didn't see eye to eye.

And, you know, I basically called the managers and said, I'm going to leave.

But it was peaceful.

I'm still, you know, I would go out to lunch with either of the managers now.

I still love Irving.

And just as I was about to go out the door, I get a long email from Irving basically saying, you're destroying your life.

if I could put it in a nutshell, and I don't think he was wrong in what he was suggesting, and I don't think he would be mad even with me sharing this.

He basically was saying,

Every artist in your position at some point has to accept that it's more about the past than the future.

And, you know, you face those challenges.

I face those challenges.

And maybe a fan wouldn't understand it.

You know, we all start as young people with a dream.

And at some point, if somebody kind of taps you on the shoulder and says, you know, it's really more about what's in the rearview mirror than what's in the front windshield, that's a hard day to kind of reconcile, even if you disagree completely.

Because why are they tapping you on the shoulder?