Billy Corgan

yeah and they go oh you know might might might not be perfect yeah it's like when i work with rick rubin he didn't want me to do more than like four vocal takes okay yeah you know because he thought something happened after that four takes okay like you lose some magical thing but yeah you know we're guitar players are nerds right so you let us go we're just gonna like

Yeah, I can do it better.

We'll ruin it all.

We'll ruin the song.

We'll ruin the parts.

We'll ruin everything.

Well, don't forget 23 because one was for SMPTE.

Well, as we say in wrestling, you got to get your shit in.

Can you talk about the songwriting partnership?

I know there's covers, but obviously you guys are working intimately together to kind of build this language.

That's cool.

Was there, because it strikes me that there's, it's weird because at the time I recognized that there was something going on, but now that I'm older and I look at it, there's this beautiful blend of aesthetics, different influences.

Sure.

You know, there's a little bit of Gen X, but there's a little bit like total futurism, like the Giorgio Moroder type Blade Runner thing going on.

Did you guys talk about that stuff or did it just kind of just, you feel your way forward?

Which they later went off.

I know.

When we got the hot space.

What, what, what for you was the, like the holy, we'll say the nice way to say holy cow, but you know, the holy F moment is my kids say, uh, were you, because in my mind it was, it was, it was white wedding that in America that felt like, like that's where the bomb went off.

Like MTV, you were everywhere.