Bjørn Lomborg

And so I think a lot of scientists are very focused on saying, can we measure whether global warming had an impact?

Which is an interesting science question.

I think it's very implausible that eventually we won't be able to say it has an impact.

But the real question, it seems to me, is if we actually want to make sure that people are less harmed in the future...

What are the levers that we can control?

And it turns out that the CO2 lever doing something about climate is an incredibly difficult and slightly inefficient way of trying to help these people in the future.

Whereas, of course, zoning, making sure that you have better housing rules, what is it?

Regulations that you maybe don't have people building in the flash flood.

What was it called?

Flash flood alley.

Flash flood alley.

It's just simple stuff.

And because we're so focused on this one issue, it almost feels sacrilegious to talk about these other things that are much more in our power and that we can do something about much quicker and that would help a lot more people.

So I think this is going to be a large part of the whole conversation.

Yes, climate is a problem, but it's not the only problem.

And there are many other things where we can actually have a much, much bigger impact at much lower cost.

Maybe we should also remember those.

So I think, you know, I totally understand why Greta Thunberg is doing what she's doing.

I have great respect for her because, you know, I look at a lot of kids growing up and they're basically being told things

you're not going to reach adulthood, or at least not, you're not going to get very far into adulthood.