Bob McMillan
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109 appearances
4 recordings
2 series
first heard May 2025
last heard 9 Jun
Bob McMillan’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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This is sort of their latest hustle, and it's a pretty lucrative one. The FBI estimates they make hundreds of millions of dollars a year from this. But the other problem is that they also steal data, and they extort their employers.
Well, I mean, whatever they can get their hands on.
There's one cybersecurity company, I don't know who it is, but they apparently hired nine workers that turned out to be North Koreans.
Yeah, imagine getting it. Richard, what are you looking for in terms of challenges with this job?
They'll just hire some random person to show up at the company, pretend to be the worker whose identity they've stolen, and collect their laptop or collect a badge. They will hire people to receive packages to reship things if they need somebody to be in a certain state or something like that. The companies have these controls to make sure that the people that they're hiring are legitimate.
And the North Koreans are just remarkably creative in just hiring somebody to solve any kind of control you have.
Yeah, it's like the heart and soul of it all, right? Because corporations don't react well to employees logging in from North Korea. You need to look like you're connecting to the corporate internet from America.
Christina receives the laptops that these remote workers get issued as part of their jobs. And she sets them all up and makes them all run from her room.
Christina Chapman did a lot of things for her clients that were crucial to the whole fraud. And she kind of operated like a staffing agency for illegal workers.
She's basically responding to all the requests that are coming into all these North Korean workers to just making sure they get through the HR onboarding. When you get hired, you got to fill out, you know, W-2s. So much paperwork. You got to provide a proof that you can work in the United States.
You have to install some sort of remote access tool on the laptop so that the North Koreans can connect to it and pretend to be working from that laptop. And, you know, sometimes she seemed a bit worn out from all the... She talks about the demands of her clients, how demanding they were.
Well, she made... OK, money, you know, not like crazy amounts of money. I mean, according to the Fed, she brought in in the paychecks that were paid to the fake workers that work through her laptop farm amounted to more than 17 million dollars.
And she made a percent of that in fees.
This one video really stood out to me. She's in her backyard. She's unboxing this Carla Rockmore jewelry.
You know, and she's so excited. And she, at one point, she says, I've never purchased jewelry with care instructions before.
And she talks about how she wants to bid for the queen's seat there, and that's the cushioned seat, and then she gets it.
Yeah, I mean, she was showering in her gym, you know, a couple years earlier, and now she's got the queen seat at Drunken Shakespeare.
The FBI knocks on her door, and they seize all these laptops. They seize 90 devices from her house. And, you know, that's the end of it.
Well, there's no evidence to show that she knew she was working with the North Koreans, but there's excerpts of her chats that are included in charging documents. It's pretty clear she knew she was doing something illegal. She talks about the illegality of, you know, signing federal forms and forging signatures and things like that.
At one point, she does DoorDash in Phoenix and makes like $7.25 for the night. She tries to sell coloring books. She tries GoFundMes. She just tries anything she can to kind of keep herself housed.
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