Bob McMillan

They'll just hire some random person to show up at the company, pretend to be the worker whose identity they've stolen, and collect their laptop or collect a badge. They will hire people to receive packages to reship things if they need somebody to be in a certain state or something like that. The companies have these controls to make sure that the people that they're hiring are legitimate.

And the North Koreans are just remarkably creative in just hiring somebody to solve any kind of control you have.

And the North Koreans are just remarkably creative in just hiring somebody to solve any kind of control you have.

And the North Koreans are just remarkably creative in just hiring somebody to solve any kind of control you have.

Yeah, it's like the heart and soul of it all, right? Because corporations don't react well to employees logging in from North Korea. You need to look like you're connecting to the corporate internet from America.

Yeah, it's like the heart and soul of it all, right? Because corporations don't react well to employees logging in from North Korea. You need to look like you're connecting to the corporate internet from America.

Yeah, it's like the heart and soul of it all, right? Because corporations don't react well to employees logging in from North Korea. You need to look like you're connecting to the corporate internet from America.

Christina receives the laptops that these remote workers get issued as part of their jobs. And she sets them all up and makes them all run from her room.

Christina receives the laptops that these remote workers get issued as part of their jobs. And she sets them all up and makes them all run from her room.

Christina receives the laptops that these remote workers get issued as part of their jobs. And she sets them all up and makes them all run from her room.

Christina Chapman did a lot of things for her clients that were crucial to the whole fraud. And she kind of operated like a staffing agency for illegal workers.

Christina Chapman did a lot of things for her clients that were crucial to the whole fraud. And she kind of operated like a staffing agency for illegal workers.

Christina Chapman did a lot of things for her clients that were crucial to the whole fraud. And she kind of operated like a staffing agency for illegal workers.

She's basically responding to all the requests that are coming into all these North Korean workers to just making sure they get through the HR onboarding. When you get hired, you got to fill out, you know, W-2s. So much paperwork. You got to provide a proof that you can work in the United States.

She's basically responding to all the requests that are coming into all these North Korean workers to just making sure they get through the HR onboarding. When you get hired, you got to fill out, you know, W-2s. So much paperwork. You got to provide a proof that you can work in the United States.

She's basically responding to all the requests that are coming into all these North Korean workers to just making sure they get through the HR onboarding. When you get hired, you got to fill out, you know, W-2s. So much paperwork. You got to provide a proof that you can work in the United States.

You have to install some sort of remote access tool on the laptop so that the North Koreans can connect to it and pretend to be working from that laptop. And, you know, sometimes she seemed a bit worn out from all the... She talks about the demands of her clients, how demanding they were.

You have to install some sort of remote access tool on the laptop so that the North Koreans can connect to it and pretend to be working from that laptop. And, you know, sometimes she seemed a bit worn out from all the... She talks about the demands of her clients, how demanding they were.

You have to install some sort of remote access tool on the laptop so that the North Koreans can connect to it and pretend to be working from that laptop. And, you know, sometimes she seemed a bit worn out from all the... She talks about the demands of her clients, how demanding they were.

Well, she made... OK, money, you know, not like crazy amounts of money. I mean, according to the Fed, she brought in in the paychecks that were paid to the fake workers that work through her laptop farm amounted to more than 17 million dollars.