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Bob Murphy

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
262 total appearances

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The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

If you had stable coins that could pay interest, that would put conventional banks out of business, right?

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

Because again, why would you keep your money parked with a regular bank that's closed on weekends and whatever when you could have blockchain-based finance that's available 24-7 and pays a higher return

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

Why wouldn't you do that?

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

So everybody would shift over in the stable.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

So I think that was the main reason the Genius Act explicitly forbid paying of interest directly to stablecoin holders.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

But then now what's going on, and you see Brian Moynihan, the CEO of Bank of America recently, was warning about this, saying, if Congress doesn't close these loopholes, you're going to see $6 trillion leave the conventional banking sector.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

And so there what they're referring to is, even though the Genius Act explicitly forbid it,

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

there's still workarounds, right?

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

Like you could still, you know, like Coinbase or whoever could say, oh, if you park your stable coins with us, we'll give you all of these incentives and rewards.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

So even though the issuer of the stable coin or Circle, whoever, isn't directly paying it to you, still, you know, by going that route, you're getting it.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

So that's now what

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

is in flux and they're arguing about, and they're trying to reach a compromise where, well, maybe if you stake it, so you don't have access to your money, then you can get paid.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

But if you have, so that's kind of the way it's evolving.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

And all this stuff is very interesting because this really is like an example of,

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

what's called free banking, right?

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

Like the idea of just pure banking in the sense of just financial intermediaries and people giving their money to one group, getting a token that's a claim on that, and then people accepting it.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

And should it be backed 100% or not?

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

These are all issues that, you know, were sort of like libertarian science fiction.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

And now it's, you know, it's reality.

The Pomp Podcast
Economist Explains Why Gold Is Beating Bitcoin | Bob Murphy

So my colleague at the Mises Institute, Alex Pollack, he's written extensively on this.