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Bob Nelson

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This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

In 1972, Bob arranged to take custody of a cryonics patient named Stephen Mandel, who'd been frozen and sealed in a capsule in New York.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

It was the Marie Bowers capsule all over again.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He opened it up, added Geneviève and another woman he'd frozen, Mildred Harris, and welded it shut again.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

By now, the first capsule was breaking down more or less constantly, and Bob had hit a wall.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

The way he describes it, it's as if he was the captain of a sinking ship, throwing cargo over the side to stay afloat.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He couldn't save them all, and so he'd come to a decision.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He would let the first capsule fail.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

This much is clear.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He kept it a secret.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

The second capsule was practically as bad as the first, constantly malfunctioning, boiling off liquid nitrogen.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

But Bob kept it going.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

Then a few years later, he had to leave town for a week.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He paid a groundskeeper $100 to babysit the capsule, and the pump broke.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

And when the groundskeeper called a company to fix it, they never showed.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

Bob says he immediately flew to Montreal to tell Geneviève's father in person.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

Next, Bob says he flew to see Terry Harris, whose mother Mildred Harris was in the second capsule with Geneviève, and whose father Gaylord was also in the vault.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

Did he understand what it meant?

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

A few days after Bob told me his story, I talked on the phone with Geneviève's father, Guy.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

He was polite and, I must say, very patient with my questions.

This American Life
354: Mistakes Were Made

But he didn't want to be interviewed on the radio.