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Bob Wachter

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
553 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Yes, but not my favorite AI agent because one thing we can't do and shouldn't do is take your medical record and stick it into a public version of ChatGPT.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Fair enough.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

So what version do you use?

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

We use โ€“ we're now about to โ€“ at UCSF, we have a partnership with ChatGPT, so we have a version that's inside our firewall.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

It's actually within my electronic health record.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I take a look at your record and I see it's longer than I have time for and I click a little button and it will summarize a 600-page document in 30 seconds the way it will summarize a 600-page book in 30 seconds.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Give me an example of how that has worked out for you so far.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

It just makes my life easier.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And if I'm seeing you and you have a past history of having had a blood clot 20 years ago, and that's on page 397 of your 600-page record, and I miss that,

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I may not make the right decision about whether you need a medicine to try to prevent a blood clot if you're going to be in the hospital.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

One of the points I make over and over in the book, I use Biden's old line, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

So even if this chart summarization is imperfect, and the data says right now it's very good, but not 100% perfect.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I recalled in the book a patient I saw a long time ago.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

The patient had a history of a pulmonary embolism, a blood clot to the lung, which is really a bad thing to have had and probably means you're gonna be on a blood thinner, which can be dangerous for the rest of your life.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I happened to have a few minutes before I saw the patient,

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I'm doing a little head scratching like, oh, that's funny.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

The patient had a history of a pulmonary embolism.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

The patient had no risk factors, no family history.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

That's kind of unusual.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And so I'm flipping through the chart.