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Bob Wachter

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
553 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

There's a lot of complexity in this that I think goes beyond...

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

the kind of decision-making support that Waze gave me this morning when I drove into the studio.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

The tech companies are playing this as we have no interest in replacing the doctor.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

We really want to be a co-pilot.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

We want to be your wingman.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

But they obviously do want to replace the doctor.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I think for the foreseeable future, the complexity of medicine, the stakes of medicine, the regulatory environment, and periodically I do have to say to a patient, you have Alzheimer's disease or you have cancer or

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I don't think patients are going to accept the idea that a bot's going to tell them that.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Although you do write about the fact that AIs can do better in the empathy realm than humans.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

That was one of the shockers that in those early years, which is really only two years ago, when we saw AI passing the medical licensing board or doing well on really tough clinical cases.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

It was like, okay, it's pretty smart.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And then studies began to come out saying if you did a blinded trial of a patient actor being given answers either by doctors or by AI, they often preferred the answers from AI.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And the AI

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

appear to be more empathic.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Of course, the AI has no empathy, but it can fake it really, really well.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

Some of my doctor friends have been telling me that their patients will come to them having used chat or some other AI bot to go through some scenarios or symptoms or whatever.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And the docs seem generally pretty happy about it.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And this is, to me, in stark contrast to a trend from 10 or 20 years ago where direct advertisement began on television for pharmaceuticals where patients would come and say, OK, I just heard about this thing.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

I just need you to sign me up and give it to me.

Freakonomics Radio
661. Can A.I. Save Your Life?

And they feel now, at least this is for my friends, that the AIs are becoming a pretty decent research tool for the patient to then bring to them the expert.