Bob Woodruff

Deborah, this is one of the points that made me very interested in this story because I can't imagine what it would be like to have done this.

But the fairness is that he had no idea this would ever happen.

that John and him, Beau, they served together in the Marines in Iraq, side by side, witnessed the same things, had the same experience.

They become extremely close.

Kind of like brothers.

It's like they're like brothers, yeah.

They would do everything for each other.

So he comes back, both of them come back, and they're now at the base, Camp Lejeune.

And he says, listen, John, you've got to meet this great woman, my sister, Holly.

And so he introduces them together.

So they were close.

And then suddenly this can take that turn.

And, you know, this is the story that made it unbearable to him.

His thoughts about guilt for being the one that introduced his sister to the one that ultimately killed her.

I can't imagine what that would be like.

Well, I think, you know, some of this is, so many things you know about, a couple of things about the

a military that have served in the wars.

Yes, there is post-traumatic stress, which, of course, from everything that they witnessed.

When you get deployed up to the war zone, there's really no way to escape the danger that's around because it's improvised explosive devices, IEDs that are ones that are killing most of those over there.

ones under the ground.