Bob Woodruff

So you have no idea where you're going, that there's something under the ground or next to the ground, or people could, with their bullets, shoot you from far away.

Imagine the post-traumatic stress that's happening to all those who've served there for deployments up to 13 months either, sometimes even more than that.

So he was certainly suffering through that.

One of the other things that we learned about John and Holly is that Holly outranked him.

She had a higher rank in the army than he had in the Marines.

And so this was kind of like that machismo sort of feeling that you have in the military.

I mean, all of us, as men, to some degree.

But in the military, it's just a little bit more extended.

And there's a lot of thoughts, even though he, John, never admitted anything, didn't even express any, never gave him apologies.

But we're told by those that are around that he had this, he kind of expressed it once in a while about the fact that he couldn't quite take it.

You know, I think we had concerns that Beau would interview with us.

Certainly his father did want to talk to us.

Jesse certainly did, but we were worried about Beau.

In fact, he expressed that he's not really sure he really wants to talk about it yet because of his guilt that he felt, but he had not spoken about this case since it happened back in 2008.

but he was willing to do it, but he was back and forth about it.

And then finally he was able to text back and forth with Beau and it was just talked about what we would talk about, the way that I feel.

And the one that was really, and I've known this in my relationship with the others that had served over in these wars, you feel closest to the people that have gone through similar things or lived through the same things and witnessed the same things.

I think that's when they feel most comfortable

I think all of us are the same.

I feel the same way too.