Bobby Skinner

You know, like, I mean, one year ago, I mean, I started at John Boy, with John Boy Media, with Talking Giants, you know, Turned Giants Nation podcast in the Talking Giants and was just kind of, it wasn't a real, real company at that time.

So I was like, you know, doing it for free for a year and a half and then did a little bit on like a stipend and then went full time and, you know, during the 2020 NFL season.

And

I mean, I was thrilled, right?

Like, I was, you know, you know, humble beginnings, right?

I was not making much money.

I, you know, didn't have a college degree.

Like, it was just kind of like, I guess I'm just going to work hard my whole, you know, work my ass off and work outside all my life.

And was thrilled, right?

And thought I'd be there forever.

And so when...

When it started having a realization that it wasn't going to be there forever and starting this, man.

Like, there was some nervousness.

I had confidence that this would work, and it has worked thanks to the listeners.

But there was some nervousness, man.

And it's not only working, like...

I think it's totally turned everything for the better, right?

And I never said that, hey, nothing's going to change or like things are going to change.

And I think most things are going to change for better, right?

Like I'm glad to be doing this with you, Grump, not to get too, you know, sappy with you.