Bozoma Saint John
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The feeling that you get in your belly that makes you feel alive and glittery, or it makes you super sad, or you don't want to get out of bed, and the sky just looks gray. And then maybe one thing happens, you're like, oh, OK, I can do it. You know, that's life. And being open to that is actually what gives you the experiences.
So therefore, when perhaps you don't accomplish everything that was on your plan, you still feel really happy about the things that you did do, because it was also magical. You know, and I'm not talking about like these big firework things. I'm talking about the little stuff too.
So therefore, when perhaps you don't accomplish everything that was on your plan, you still feel really happy about the things that you did do, because it was also magical. You know, and I'm not talking about like these big firework things. I'm talking about the little stuff too.
You know, the new person that you meet on the way to somewhere, you know, or like the like meal that you had that you didn't think was gonna be delicious that you just really savored. It was just magically amazing, you know, and just being appreciative of those moments. So again, it's like the life is not just about like the big, big, big stuff. It's not the headlines.
You know, the new person that you meet on the way to somewhere, you know, or like the like meal that you had that you didn't think was gonna be delicious that you just really savored. It was just magically amazing, you know, and just being appreciative of those moments. So again, it's like the life is not just about like the big, big, big stuff. It's not the headlines.
You know, so to me, it's like logic is what I then throw out the window.
You know, so to me, it's like logic is what I then throw out the window.
It's like, oh, I'm not going to live a logical life. I'm going to live a magical life. The kind that is open to all of the things I can't explain. You know, that like the writing down of the list and the making the steps. And I'm not saying that you walk around just like, oh, whatever happens today is what happens. You know, like, look, we all got to be responsible adults. Okay.
It's like, oh, I'm not going to live a logical life. I'm going to live a magical life. The kind that is open to all of the things I can't explain. You know, that like the writing down of the list and the making the steps. And I'm not saying that you walk around just like, oh, whatever happens today is what happens. You know, like, look, we all got to be responsible adults. Okay.
But the truth of the matter is that, like, how many of our plans have been stopped because of logic? The things that you said, like, ah, well, shoot, I can't do that because of this reason and that reason and that reason. And sometimes it's other people's logic that actually stops you from doing the things you want to do. And so I want to stop that.
But the truth of the matter is that, like, how many of our plans have been stopped because of logic? The things that you said, like, ah, well, shoot, I can't do that because of this reason and that reason and that reason. And sometimes it's other people's logic that actually stops you from doing the things you want to do. And so I want to stop that.
I've been active in being like, every time I approach a new ambition or a new idea or like, oh, I want to take a trip here. And that logic starts to come in. I'm like, girl, where's that magic? You better just step out and let the magic find you. You know? And not stop yourself because the math is mathing.
I've been active in being like, every time I approach a new ambition or a new idea or like, oh, I want to take a trip here. And that logic starts to come in. I'm like, girl, where's that magic? You better just step out and let the magic find you. You know? And not stop yourself because the math is mathing.
No, it doesn't make sense logically.
No, it doesn't make sense logically.
Yes, to happen. Because I can't tell you how many things have happened in my life that don't make sense.
Yes, to happen. Because I can't tell you how many things have happened in my life that don't make sense.
The fact that I've had the career I've had doesn't make sense. It's not logical. There's no stat. Even when you look at things like, oh, you know how many black women CMOs have had jobs for like Fortune 50 companies? There's no math. There's no data point because it doesn't exist. But I exist. So can you explain that? No, you cannot.
The fact that I've had the career I've had doesn't make sense. It's not logical. There's no stat. Even when you look at things like, oh, you know how many black women CMOs have had jobs for like Fortune 50 companies? There's no math. There's no data point because it doesn't exist. But I exist. So can you explain that? No, you cannot.
So opening yourself up to like these things is what actually creates your destiny to run the way that it should. I'll give you one example. When Peter died in December of 2013, I was at PepsiCo. I'd been there for 10 years. It was a great job. I'd done many iterations of things. And at that time, I was the head of music and entertainment marketing.