Brad Beeler

And we're used to talking around the dinner table when it comes to with our family members.

So little hacks like that, as far as when we have that difficult conversation, where we have it, go a long way to be just as important as what we're actually saying during the conversation.

Yeah, thanks, Mike.

That's a great point.

As far as a lot of the people that I've talked to, a lot of the criminals, you would think, why would they talk about this?

This is probably against their self-interest.

Many of these people, this is their identity or it's something they feel horrible about.

They've never had somebody ask them about it.

All right.

And one of the things that really taught me this is in graduate school, I worked at the jail in St.

Louis and it was a research project.

And I'm a small town kid.

I knew nothing about the big city crime.

And I would talk to people about robbery, rape, murder, prostitution.

And what we would do is we'd collect urine from them as part of a research project.

And we'd give them a Snickers bar and a Mountain Dew.

But I wanted to talk to them.

It was all anonymous.

So I would ask them, hey, how do you make methamphetamines?

How do you make crack cocaine?