Brad Costanzo

in a very legitimate way, Garmin and TomTom GPS.

And we hired voice actors to create really cool celebrity impersonations, such as like Stewie from The Family Guy, et cetera.

And some ones we just created in order to give you turn-by-turn directions in a fun character's voice.

And I don't think they've done it.

Yeah, I think it's still up, but I don't think it's doing much.

I can't tell you the last time I saw somebody with a garment or Tom Tom.

It's just a small investor.

Yeah, we didn't sell that for a whole lot of money.

I'd say I'm focused on consulting, crowdfunding, and coffee.

That consulting does.

The consulting, actually, the crowdfunding aspect has been recently working with some...

companies to do equity, to manage their campaign, to do an equity crowdfunding deal where they're trying to raise between 10 to $50 million.

So the consulting has been my primary business ever since I got out of, I sold my business and I was like, what am I going to do next?

Starting a brand new thing is kind of hard, but I had all this ammunition of marketing knowledge.

I just went around to my friends and started adding value.

And I kind of stumbled into the consulting world.

I loved it.

And it was everything from helping them just grow their online presence, optimize their marketing funnels, strategize their paid media campaigns, and a little bit of everything, really.

I would say 2013.

And I wouldn't even call it, it wasn't even a firm at the time.