Brad Gerstner

No, no, it's flat.

You can see it's flat there for the four years, the percentage on your own chart, and that only goes to Q1.

But sure, keep going.

Yeah, I'm not even sure this is relevant without the last six months of data.

Well, I think the white-collar jobs amongst young people are the ones showing up.

I was very clear.

I think it's happening with young folks.

And then the number of layoffs right now is the largest number of layoffs we've had in a quarter since 2003.

This has been a lot of layoffs.

I know it's hard to hear, Sax, but this has been the largest number of layoffs in 20 years.

No, no.

I told you what it is.

I'm just seeing the anecdotal stuff I see on the front lines is what I base it on.

It's not just me glomming onto random...

So we should get to the election results.

And then just as the chart I was mentioning, Sachs, here's the layoffs for any October highest since 2003.

So, hey, listen, we're all trying to figure things out in real time here.

But it's not just the all-in pod talking about what's going on here with jobs.

It's a big discussion on CNBC and everywhere in between social media.

And what's happening right now to win the debate club, but you're misconstruing my point.