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Brad Jacobs

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

We didn't think it was worth that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

We thought if you looked at the sum of the parts of the business, this should be trading many turns of multiple higher than that, significantly higher than that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

But we said, I don't think we're going to get there on our own because the market has spoken.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So we decided to do something that very few companies do, which is to make ourselves smaller.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And we divided the company up into three companies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And those three companies, we put the circles around the different parts of the business of how we're going to divide it up with two things in mind.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

One was, how can we run this business with greater focus operationally, execution-wise?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And secondly...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

What will get a better model?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Because Wall Street generally likes pure plays.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

As a general rule, not always, but generally likes pure plays.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It likes to have easy to understand stories.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Typical sell side analyst, for example, covers 32 stocks.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So they don't have the luxury of time to really go deep studying stuff.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

We divided the company up into one company that was primarily LTL, which is XPO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

Another company that was primarily brokerage, truck brokers, non-asset, which is RXO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And a third company, which we were talking about before, which is the supply chain business, was GXO.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

And now each of those companies gets EBITDA multiples of 11, 12, 13 times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

It's a big change.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]

So we unleashed the value from getting multiple expansion by dividing the company up into smaller companies.