Brad Jacobs

Doomscrolling is what they call it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I've watched my, I have a 22 year old and a 20 year old.

I've watched my kids navigate it and they've come in and out and then they set boundaries for themselves.

Right.

So their app automatically times out or there's a way that they try and manage it.

And they themselves had mental health challenges because of that.

And they've, so I think it's an active, I think we shouldn't blame ourselves.

We shouldn't shame ourselves.

I think it's happening to us or like the food is happening to us and we need to recognize it and then just take action as best we can.

Yeah.

Was it Australia that recently passed some legislation about this?

That's an older outer.

I'm sure there'll be workarounds.

And I think now, at least like my son, as an example, started a nonprofit focused on nature and mental health for teenagers.

So he takes kids climbing.

He does meditation, if they're willing to do it, a little bit of journaling.

But he gets kids active in the summer and summer camps because of this, right?

Which is a great way to bring kids together, do an activity they like, climbing, and get them out of their house.