Brad Milkey

Okay, so Karen allegedly drops John O'Keefe off at his colleague Brian's house for this after party. She goes home. What happens next?

Okay, so Karen allegedly drops John O'Keefe off at his colleague Brian's house for this after party. She goes home. What happens next?

And those suspicions lead to an arrest, right?

And those suspicions lead to an arrest, right?

so what is the theory from the prosecution here is that Karen Reed is drunk and then hits this guy with her car and leaves him to die because Karen by the way denies being drunk or incapacitated so what is the actual argument being made by the prosecution that's pretty

so what is the theory from the prosecution here is that Karen Reed is drunk and then hits this guy with her car and leaves him to die because Karen by the way denies being drunk or incapacitated so what is the actual argument being made by the prosecution that's pretty

So to the prosecution, open and shut case, like you said, Occam's razor, simplest explanations, the most probable explanation. But the defense here, Matt, has told a completely different story, right? They've alleged a framing and a cover up by fellow police officers. Everyone in that house has said not a chance. We had nothing to do with it. There's no framing.

So to the prosecution, open and shut case, like you said, Occam's razor, simplest explanations, the most probable explanation. But the defense here, Matt, has told a completely different story, right? They've alleged a framing and a cover up by fellow police officers. Everyone in that house has said not a chance. We had nothing to do with it. There's no framing.

John O'Keefe never even entered the house, they say. So what is the defense alleging here?

John O'Keefe never even entered the house, they say. So what is the defense alleging here?

Wait, that's the term of the Google search? How long to die in the cold? But like a typo version of how long to die in the cold?

Wait, that's the term of the Google search? How long to die in the cold? But like a typo version of how long to die in the cold?

Oh, so like you open up a tab, it says like that tab was open since 2.30, but maybe the search term wasn't put in until 6 a.m. or something. Exactly. So then, isn't the other thing here, Matt, that... All the investigators are cops. So many of the people allegedly in that house at the time are cops.

Oh, so like you open up a tab, it says like that tab was open since 2.30, but maybe the search term wasn't put in until 6 a.m. or something. Exactly. So then, isn't the other thing here, Matt, that... All the investigators are cops. So many of the people allegedly in that house at the time are cops.

Is it possible for investigators to maintain distance in the case like this where it's a dead cop, it's cop witnesses? How do you keep that distance? Can you?

Is it possible for investigators to maintain distance in the case like this where it's a dead cop, it's cop witnesses? How do you keep that distance? Can you?

We're back with ABC's chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman, who's been following the Karen Reid case throughout. Matt, we heard the arguments in this case. There have been lots of twists and turns, even so far as having the lead police investigator suspended and then later fired. How did all this then affect the trial and the public response?

We're back with ABC's chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman, who's been following the Karen Reid case throughout. Matt, we heard the arguments in this case. There have been lots of twists and turns, even so far as having the lead police investigator suspended and then later fired. How did all this then affect the trial and the public response?

To which we should say, Matt, his turtle boy, his name is Aiden Kearney. He's facing witness intimidation charges related to this case now, to which he's pleaded not guilty. Right. But go on.

To which we should say, Matt, his turtle boy, his name is Aiden Kearney. He's facing witness intimidation charges related to this case now, to which he's pleaded not guilty. Right. But go on.