Brad Milkey

Why is that? Did you get a sense of what the jury found lacking on either side?

Why is that? Did you get a sense of what the jury found lacking on either side?

Yeah, Matt, so catch us up on this new trial. So what has happened so far, and what will be different about it, I suppose?

Yeah, Matt, so catch us up on this new trial. So what has happened so far, and what will be different about it, I suppose?

Sometimes you're not allowed to be like, it wasn't me, it was this other person. But here, that's a legitimate defense, perhaps, in this case.

Sometimes you're not allowed to be like, it wasn't me, it was this other person. But here, that's a legitimate defense, perhaps, in this case.

Wait, what? She was an alternate juror on the case and now she's part of the defense team?

Wait, what? She was an alternate juror on the case and now she's part of the defense team?

that it's hard to imagine. And probably elicits such strong feelings. We're talking about the murder of a cop either by his girlfriend or by other cops. I mean, I got to imagine it just gets really high stakes for everyone.

that it's hard to imagine. And probably elicits such strong feelings. We're talking about the murder of a cop either by his girlfriend or by other cops. I mean, I got to imagine it just gets really high stakes for everyone.

members of the boston area police departments and state troopers to frame an innocent woman either way it's not pretty well and so then as we go forward jury selection is still in process we'll see how the trial goes but you've actually spoken to the defendant matt like you've spoken to karen reed in the past what is your sense of her and how she comes across to jurors

members of the boston area police departments and state troopers to frame an innocent woman either way it's not pretty well and so then as we go forward jury selection is still in process we'll see how the trial goes but you've actually spoken to the defendant matt like you've spoken to karen reed in the past what is your sense of her and how she comes across to jurors

You know, Brad, I spent a bunch of time with Karen Reid.

You know, Brad, I spent a bunch of time with Karen Reid.

Especially now that this judge has said, like, yes, you can sort of explain this theory of the case to these potential jurors. Matt Gutmann, as always, great reporting. Thank you so much. Thanks, Brad. Now, let's check in on some of the other biggest true crime headlines that are making waves this week.

Especially now that this judge has said, like, yes, you can sort of explain this theory of the case to these potential jurors. Matt Gutmann, as always, great reporting. Thank you so much. Thanks, Brad. Now, let's check in on some of the other biggest true crime headlines that are making waves this week.

First up, an Oklahoma man has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of a beloved Kansas priest. Father Arul Karasala was shot last Thursday in broad daylight on his church grounds in the small city of Seneca, Kansas. 66-year-old Gary Hermish turned himself in for the murder and is being held on $1 million bond, according to the Nemaha County Attorney Brad Lippert.

First up, an Oklahoma man has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of a beloved Kansas priest. Father Arul Karasala was shot last Thursday in broad daylight on his church grounds in the small city of Seneca, Kansas. 66-year-old Gary Hermish turned himself in for the murder and is being held on $1 million bond, according to the Nemaha County Attorney Brad Lippert.

Karasala had been the pastor at St. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in Seneca for the last 15 years. No plea has been entered. Next, a soccer coach has been charged with murder after a 13-year-old on his team was reported missing by his family and later found dead, officials announced on Monday.

Karasala had been the pastor at St. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in Seneca for the last 15 years. No plea has been entered. Next, a soccer coach has been charged with murder after a 13-year-old on his team was reported missing by his family and later found dead, officials announced on Monday.