Brad Milkey

Wait, can I just pause this, Kena? Because it sounds clear to me like they haven't, they know something's wrong, but they have not even gone in the room where these bodies are.

Okay, and so let's play the rest of this. This is sort of as they're finding the condition of the bodies here that we now know are past saving. Okay.

Okay, and so let's play the rest of this. This is sort of as they're finding the condition of the bodies here that we now know are past saving. Okay.

Kena, I mean, just listening back to all that, what is your impression of that call?

Kena, I mean, just listening back to all that, what is your impression of that call?

And then just not to dwell on this too much, but I think a lot of people might go, hello, these people, there was a man in your house at four or something in the morning. Why did it take this long? I mean, is there a sense as to why nothing happened for so long?

And then just not to dwell on this too much, but I think a lot of people might go, hello, these people, there was a man in your house at four or something in the morning. Why did it take this long? I mean, is there a sense as to why nothing happened for so long?

And just to back things up a bit, like the details that you're mentioning, those were in past court filings. The detail about the surviving roommate drinking and being prone to those lucid dreams was mentioned in a filing by the defense.

And just to back things up a bit, like the details that you're mentioning, those were in past court filings. The detail about the surviving roommate drinking and being prone to those lucid dreams was mentioned in a filing by the defense.

Within the house, they're texting to each other just from different rooms.

Within the house, they're texting to each other just from different rooms.

What do they say? Like, what are they texting at that point?

What do they say? Like, what are they texting at that point?

That's what's so confusing, Kena. It's kind of like you know that there is communication happening and yet it's not like, hey, let's find out what happened. And there's hours where nothing happens. So you're wondering, like, did they go to sleep? Are they just kind of in denial? Is it all of the above? Do we have answers to that, I guess?

That's what's so confusing, Kena. It's kind of like you know that there is communication happening and yet it's not like, hey, let's find out what happened. And there's hours where nothing happens. So you're wondering, like, did they go to sleep? Are they just kind of in denial? Is it all of the above? Do we have answers to that, I guess?

You know, the one name we haven't said so far, Kena, is Brian Koberger, right? He has emerged as the suspect in this case. His lawyers say he's innocent. But that all brings us to kind of another interesting fold here, which is how he was arrested and how the FBI says it found DNA linking him to this. What can you tell us about that?

You know, the one name we haven't said so far, Kena, is Brian Koberger, right? He has emerged as the suspect in this case. His lawyers say he's innocent. But that all brings us to kind of another interesting fold here, which is how he was arrested and how the FBI says it found DNA linking him to this. What can you tell us about that?

Right. And investigative genetic genealogy. This is where you get DNA like from a knife sheath. You load that data onto public genealogy sites and you build out a family tree from there. Right. So what was happening with Koberger at that time?

Right. And investigative genetic genealogy. This is where you get DNA like from a knife sheath. You load that data onto public genealogy sites and you build out a family tree from there. Right. So what was happening with Koberger at that time?

I remember this. He was going home for the holidays, right?