Brandon Epstein

You know, Instagram is really this like thing you invest in for the future because, of course, more followers you get, well, the more engaged potential customers you get.

And so in the beginning, it's like, all right, we're breaking even, but we are, you know, continuing to build the audience.

So the more followers you get, the more revenue you get.

Absolutely, man.

That's so smart what you did with the direct messaging because a lot of people don't know this.

Twitter, people get spam like crazy in their direct message box, but I'm managing these big-time accounts for these people, and they receive maybe a couple of direct messages a week.

If you want to contact people who are influencers in your field, send them a direct message with a creative image on Instagram, and they will see it, I promise you, because no one's doing this right now.

So if you look at some of the top entrepreneur accounts, like Founder.

Are you familiar with Founder Magazine?

Exactly.

So what these guys are doing, they have this little...

little ninja circle of guys who are all building each other up so more than anything else find a crew get yourself like a dozen people in your niche and just cross promote each other like crazy and that's the fastest way and the cheapest way to grow your following i don't know if nathan talked about this at all but like that's what this whole crew guys who have like between a hundred thousand and a million plus followers have done and they just had rapid growth

Hit me with it, man.

My favorite?

Man, I love the spiritual stuff, so I'll go with Think and Grow Rich just because it just shifted the way I saw what was possible.

Absolutely.

A CEO that I'm following and studying right now?

Man, I always like to keep tabs on Elon Musk because he seems to always be on the brink of future technology.

So I'm always looking at him.

Peter Diamantis as well.