Brandon Tseng

and our allies, like principal advantage, which is air superiority.

So they're going after your runways.

What vertical takeoff, launch, and land, besides getting out of runways, it allows you to be very tactical, very maneuverable.

The...

Ukrainians and the Russians, they're moving their strategic equipment every 10 minutes because they're just sitting targets, so you have to be mobile.

If you're tied to a runway, you're not very mobile.

The VBATs, theoretically, you could use a swarm of VBATs that would be...

it becomes like an operational challenge to like actually deploy swarms, like more of a logistics challenge than anything.

But the way that like we're, the Ukrainians are using them, they're putting them in the back of Sprinter vans, going to a launch point, launching, moving, commanding the thing, landing it somewhere else, right?

Again, I don't think a lot of folks, if you haven't been over there, realize how dynamic the battlefield is at this stage in the game.

it's just constant movement.

Shoot and move, shoot and move, shoot and move, but done like in the essence where it's like, if you're not doing it, you're just getting, you're a target, you're a sitting duck.

So you have to have this mobile equipment.

You still have to have the ability to conduct ISR and targeting, but you're just limited, not just from like that runways are targets, but also the proliferation of surface-to-air missile systems make large exquisite aircraft very vulnerable.

Whether it's,

Everybody saw our Stinger missiles, or not our, they saw Ukrainians shooting down Russian helicopters with Stinger missiles.

They saw that in 1980s in Afghanistan.

They saw it again in Ukraine and just augmented by other surface-to-air missile systems.

It's really impossible using...

large exquisite platforms, and even like too dangerous for man platforms to operate in these highly contested environments.