Brené Brown

So they choose to live disappointed rather than feel disappointed.

You know, they choose just to think, eh, it's okay right now, but it'll be bad in a little bit.

Or this is nice now, but it'll turn soon.

And I just, I hearkened back to an interview with a man who was in his 70s.

And he and his wife were in an automobile accident and she was killed.

And he told me his greatest regret was never leaning into the great moments out of fear that they'd be taken away because now he had not accumulated those across his life.

It's a gut punch.

It's a gut punch, yeah.

And so I do think there's a vulnerability to giving over to

love, and joy that's real.

It could, for sure.

Good television, good film, good music brings me a ton of joy.

It gives me a feeling of inextricable human connection.

I think let's focus on The Office for right now because it will be a representative of other things.

Okay.

My children...

can recite the dialogue from every Office episode verbatim.

Sometimes when the show's not even on, they get into a back and forth on it that is like, you know.

It's nuts.

Since the time I was little, and I remember the first time it actually happened, I have such excruciating, vicarious embarrassment about,