Brendan Carr

Chloe Veltman, NPR News.

Glenn, I'm great.

Thank you so much for having me on, and thank you for convincing me 15 years ago not to go to an Ivy League business school and to come work for you instead at your company.

It all worked out, Glenn.

It all worked out.

ivy league education maybe it would have been different for you because i mean you're you talk about it manufacturing delusion you know the tricks of indoctrination so maybe it would have been different from you yeah i i would hope that i could have continued to stay sane i mean look the the basis of this book the basic idea it comes out of the madness of of covid um but it's not a covid book it's okay everybody we know we read about these other places

We're familiar with mind control in the Soviet Union, with the Cultural Revolution in Maoist China and how insane that got, with the reality of North Korea today.

We know that that all exists and that all has happened.

But how is it that in this country, we basically collectively, not all of us, but as a country, went insane during COVID?

And I was like, well, if it's possible on that, you know, it's possible on other things, too.

And there's actually smaller bouts of.

of politicized insanity, BLM, climate change, the gender madness.

I mean, I have a whole chapter, Glenn, and you would love this, but legitimately, I'm sure people say, Glenn, you will actually love this book.

I go back into the writings of a World War II Dutch psychiatrist named Dr. Joost Meerloo, and he coined the term menticide.

He wrote a book called Rape of the Mind.

He sat down with Nazis, Nazi prisoners of war, to say, how did you do this, basically?

How did you make a whole country go insane?

And he approached this as a psychiatrist, as a practitioner, and came up with this framework.

Well, the framework, Glenn, is applicable to some of the brainwashing, some of the things we see going on here in America today.

And so that's why the book, it's history, but it's a history that informs what's happening right now.