Brenden Nel

A damn squib at the end of the day.

Yeah.

No, exactly.

And I think especially after Wellington last year, and I've got to remind you of Wellington last year, especially after that, that was probably the most complete performance I've seen from a Springbok team in New Zealand ever.

And that was the youngsters, eh?

That was the youngsters that did that.

And I think there will be some All Blacks that want to give payback, and that's great.

And there's a challenge to be met there.

And I think the Springbok players are relishing it.

And I think as just a journo and a long-time fan of these rivalries, I can't wait.

I can't wait.

You guys are going to be out there.

We're going to be bribing together.

I can't wait to get there and to have the banter over the bribe.

i agree with you because i mean look that's the one thing that's the one way you know players is in on those old school tours because there's going to be players in those provincial sides and those franchises who are going to come through in the next year and probably will be at the world cup as well it won't be many of them because i think the squad's pretty settled but there will be a couple of youngsters who are going to force their way in and and they're going to make every player wants to make their mark against the all-black south african player and i think

going to get some new names we can do a show at some point before you guys get here about some of the youngsters you will look out for because they are south african rugby is an extremely exciting place over the last couple of years basically one because obviously the springboks have done just so well the the franchises their their results have been up and down but the amount of youngsters coming through at the moment

You probably see four or five at the Eastern and Springbok side this year again, and there's some great players coming through.

Every time I watch the under-20s, I'm just astounded by where does this talent come from?

The one thing they've done well, and I've got to give them a shout-out for that, Dave Vessels, ex-Western Force and Melbourne Rebels coach.

He's the head of high performance at SA Rugby now, and he's the guy who's got the structures together finely, properly.