Brenden Nel

Technically it is, but it's not, as I say, it's an asterisk on his name.

Look, I mean, part of it is because they're trying to catch people.

And that's the thing.

If you tell somebody, players and those ones who want to do stuff wrong will try and engineer it that they don't get caught.

So part of it is because there has to be random surprise testing.

And I know of cases here of players who've been on a Sunday morning in their pyjamas and the guys turn up at half past seven at their house, at their front door.

Sorry, guys, my dogs are just, they're hearing your voice, Marty, and they think somebody's at the door.

I mean, that's part of it.

The other thing is it does get done randomly in testing.

Players know, and I don't know where they do it.

I mean, I've never, I've just heard of times where we've been at press conferences a lot and, you know, guys have sort of been late for press conferences because he's doing a drug test.

Okay.

So you have that every now and again.

So it does, it is done randomly.

But I think part of that is they don't want to give a guy a schedule and you'll be tested on this date, obviously.

But players are tested regularly.

And I think any of the rugby unions will tell you this.

Interestingly, I haven't gone to research it, but after all this, obviously on Twitter, you have your conversations with people.

And it was pointed out to me by one guy that the country with the most positive tests over the last 30 years is actually England.

And yeah, we don't hear about it.