Brenden Nel

They're still training professionally.

They've got professional conditioners as well.

And I just think the workload on their bodies is not as high, and that helps players.

And they're fresher by the time they get to the Springbok camp.

um yeah the the japanese players the japanese clubs have been exceptional with the springbok players they they really enjoy their time there they they manage their workload when they get back to the springbox they're fresh they might be a bit mattressy and that's why there's an extra game or so for them but uh yeah the one thing the springbox have done is that they've got to a point now where they don't have to rely only on those players the depth is so great in the springbok team at the moment that you don't really have that problem anymore

I think it is.

I'm not one of those things that super rugby doesn't prepare you for test rugby.

I think New Zealand and Australia have consistently over the last 20 years been in the top five, six sides in the world.

I mean, Australia, when I say tops, New Zealand's been close to the top, if not the top for that time as well.

So I don't think that's the case.

I think where it comes, the difference is test match rugby, as we all know, is a lot more physical, a lot more grind, a lot more...

you know, toughing it out and that mental factor in that.

I think sometimes Super Rugby, the general trend has been let's score tries.

And, and while that's great, and I mean, we all love watching tries, and there's been some fabulous tries scored.

I think that that hard grind in the rain in Cardiff or

Not anymore in Cardiff, but in the past in Cardiff or in some of those places like Twickenham when it was belting down with rain.

That sort of stuff, the Northern Hemisphere clubs do a lot better.

And we see it a lot more.

And I think that's probably benefited South African rugby a lot more being in Europe.

as that.