Brene Brown
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There was this barbed wire. It was a prison camp. It wasn't a refugee camp. And people were behind the fence. And they had been wearing T-shirts and shorts that they were given by Catholic Relief Services. So they were wearing T-shirts that said things like Miami Dolphins or Miami Heat.
There was this barbed wire. It was a prison camp. It wasn't a refugee camp. And people were behind the fence. And they had been wearing T-shirts and shorts that they were given by Catholic Relief Services. So they were wearing T-shirts that said things like Miami Dolphins or Miami Heat.
And when I got out of the car, they all started gathering and moving toward the fence because they had just seen me inside the hangar. And suddenly about four or five of the Haitians ran to the fence and just grabbed the fence, grabbing the barbed wire. And their hands were just bleeding and they were shaking it. And they started screaming, Harold, Harold. And in French, they were saying, free us.
And when I got out of the car, they all started gathering and moving toward the fence because they had just seen me inside the hangar. And suddenly about four or five of the Haitians ran to the fence and just grabbed the fence, grabbing the barbed wire. And their hands were just bleeding and they were shaking it. And they started screaming, Harold, Harold. And in French, they were saying, free us.
And the soldiers were so freaked out. They told me to get back in the car. And we drove away, and at this point, all of them are screaming at the top of their lungs, Harold! And for the rest of the time I worked on the case, I would wake up in the middle of the night. And I think if I don't get them out, that's what they'll be shouting when they go back on the boats.
And the soldiers were so freaked out. They told me to get back in the car. And we drove away, and at this point, all of them are screaming at the top of their lungs, Harold! And for the rest of the time I worked on the case, I would wake up in the middle of the night. And I think if I don't get them out, that's what they'll be shouting when they go back on the boats.
Well, it taught me what it means to be a lawyer. You take on somebody's representation and they don't have anybody else. And you better give it everything you've got. Because if you don't and you fail, you don't pay the price.
Well, it taught me what it means to be a lawyer. You take on somebody's representation and they don't have anybody else. And you better give it everything you've got. Because if you don't and you fail, you don't pay the price.
No president wants to look like they can't control immigration.
No president wants to look like they can't control immigration.
Normally, a lawsuit gets to the Supreme Court, if at all, once in three to five years. This case went to the Supreme Court five or six times in the first year, and the pace was just insane. I had never argued a case in court before. I probably argued 25 to 30 times in about a year and a half. I probably stayed up all night working on briefs 50 times.
Normally, a lawsuit gets to the Supreme Court, if at all, once in three to five years. This case went to the Supreme Court five or six times in the first year, and the pace was just insane. I had never argued a case in court before. I probably argued 25 to 30 times in about a year and a half. I probably stayed up all night working on briefs 50 times.
He basically said, we're not bringing people to Guantanamo anymore. If people come, we'll just pick them up and bring them back.
He basically said, we're not bringing people to Guantanamo anymore. If people come, we'll just pick them up and bring them back.
Now, you have to remember this was just after the Berlin Wall had been knocked down. This was essentially a floating Berlin Wall. You know, people were trying to flee from persecution, and they were picking them up on boats and bringing them back. It wasn't a humanitarian mission because they could have brought them anywhere else. except Haiti, but they were bringing them back to Haiti.
Now, you have to remember this was just after the Berlin Wall had been knocked down. This was essentially a floating Berlin Wall. You know, people were trying to flee from persecution, and they were picking them up on boats and bringing them back. It wasn't a humanitarian mission because they could have brought them anywhere else. except Haiti, but they were bringing them back to Haiti.
And among other things, they were forcing them off the boats with fire hoses. So we called it the Kennebunkport Order because, you know, something issued from someone's vacation home essentially spelled doom for many, many people.
And among other things, they were forcing them off the boats with fire hoses. So we called it the Kennebunkport Order because, you know, something issued from someone's vacation home essentially spelled doom for many, many people.