Brent Pease

Right.

And 10 years prior.

That wouldn't have been his reaction.

His reaction would have been like, just sit in the chair if you're going to act like that and I'll push it.

But instead he was like, okay, Brent went through something.

I hear him.

I will support you now.

And that's what's involved is that we can still do that.

We can still be brothers.

We don't have to be in the back of a cab screaming and cussing at each other.

That we can be on a bicycle and we can get through it together.

The Hoyts were great when we first started doing this, and it was such a great lesson that we reached out and they responded almost immediately with, here's the list of everything you need to get going.

When we first started, we didn't know how to do it.

And they basically showed us, here's the path we've blazed, here's everything you need.

The second one I'll tell you that kind of illustrates how we were willing to, not only to accept it, but to understand it, was that Dick called me before the Ironman in 2018.

the one in Hawaii.

And he just called and just said, you know, we're just so proud of what you guys have been doing.

Like, congrats on all your stuff.

Like, just want to wish you well in Hawaii.

And it's like, this is the legendary, you know, Dick Hoyt.